One of the most sur­pris­ing out­comes since then is to find just how many peo­ple I know who are engi­neers [have] had some expe­ri­ence with the law. It’s unbe­liev­able the num­ber of peo­ple who’ve come to me and said, ​“Look, the same thing hap­pened to me when I was a teenag­er, when I was in col­lege, a lit­tle after.”