I look into mak­ing. And that’s tra­di­tion­al mak­ing prac­tices, dig­i­tal prac­tices, and their inter­sec­tions with soci­ety. So under­stand­ing what that rela­tion­ship is, can be, or might be, and how they influ­ence each oth­er. So how mak­ing prac­tices in soci­ety can influ­ence the tech­nolo­gies that we devel­op, right. So I make tools, process­es, tech­nolo­gies, etc., and real­ly ques­tion cul­ture, soci­ety, and design through them.