I came along in the ear­ly 1990s to join the Internet devel­op­ment com­mu­ni­ty, at a time when this work was cul­ti­vat­ed by a mix of acad­e­mia, gov­ern­ment, and indus­try. And it was real­ly start­ing to flour­ish, and the growth of the Net was start­ing to explode at that point with two to three new coun­tries join­ing you know, every every month or two with their full TCP/IP con­nec­tions.