I think a lot of the times in my field, we see peo­ple with tech­ni­cal skills, tra­di­tion­al tech­ni­cal skills like com­put­er sci­ence or elec­tri­cal engi­neer­ing, being com­fort­able sort of tak­ing on the role of craftsper­son. But at the same time we’re not very…generous with giv­ing the term ​“engi­neer” or ​“tech­ni­cal” to peo­ple who are real­ly from the world of craft.